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SteveB
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 Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: Mary Valley Jobs Advertised in New Zealand |
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Someone found this series of advertisements on a New Zealand on-line job search service.
They are looking for everyone from engineers, office staff to flagmen for a large project in the Mary Valley, which the ads say is in a great location for getting work on lots of large infrastructure projects in the future.
http://www.seek.co.nz/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31&catlocation=1006&stateselected=true&Keywords=Mary%20Valley&searchfrom=quick
Job adverts were placed on 8th January 2009, well after the Anna Bligh's announcement that about 'postponing' construction.
I haven't found out what this workforce is required for. It could be the pipeline, but that would surely be advertised overseas as a "Sunshine Coast" project rather than a "Mary Valley" project.
It would be good to find out who the client for the job agency is.
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bensoncooroy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: Mary Valley Jobs advertised in NZ |
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to quote from the adverts.
" The proposed significant Major Project is to be located on the Mary Valley Region and is currently subject to State and Federal Environmental approval"
So they are looking far and wide for people even now to build the dam, maybe that is why they are emptying out the houses of renters, even when they were the original owners, there are alot of empty houses about . |
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westholme
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Perhaps David Gibson should be notified of this so he can bring it up in parliament when it sits. Surely it is worthy of a confrontation and resultant explanation?
Advertising for construction based jobs when the government has publicly said the dam will be postponed for several years in order to implement what they believe will be Garrett's & the C-G's approval conditions?
Perhaps also, the media should be made aware that this ad was placed after the announcement of the dam construction postponement.
And whatever happened to jobs going first to the local workforce? In the unlikely scenario of a dam approval, I am sure these positions can be filled onshore before they have to look offshore.
With much in the media about job losses due to the economic downturn, and so many people losing their jobs in the resource sector, surely the Labour State Government should be looking after Queenslanders first (huh, what am I saying....why would they start looking after Queenslanders now..after all these years of neglect???....)
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Senator the Hon Ian Macdonald
Parliamentary Secretary for Northern Australia
Liberal Senator for Queensland
BLIGH’S DUPLICITIOUS POLICIES
| Quote: | Queensland Liberal Senator, and member of the Senate Inquiry into Traveston Dam, Ian Macdonald, says that the Queensland Government has demonstrated twice why it can’t be trusted governing Queensland.
“An advertisement on a New Zealand website calls for expressions of interest for ‘proposed significant major project and associated projects’ in the Mary Valley. Further enquiry reveals that the ‘major project’ is the Traveston Crossing Dam,” Senator Macdonald said.
“The Bligh Government is doubly duplicitous in that:
1. at a time of rising unemployment and with Queensland mine workers laid off, the Queensland Government is recruiting overseas.
2. Having announced a deferral of the Traveston Crossing Dam, (which most see as a precursor to abandonment of a stupid project), why is the Government recruiting labour for the project?
Perhaps Ms Bligh really does plan to proceed with the construction of the Dam after the election?”
“And perhaps she doesn’t give a ‘dam’ about displaced mine workers in Queensland?”
“An explanation would be welcome.”
The job advertisement can be found at
http://www.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=32&PageNumber=1&JobID=14606826 |
20 January 2009
Media Contact: Troy Reeves (07) 4771 3066 BH 0427 960 255 AH |
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westholme
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Brilliant!! I couldn't have said it better myself.
If the heat get's turned on them, those job ads will likely disappear. So if the links don't work soon, here's the wording pasted from the webpage.
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ADMINISTRATION EVP Recruitment Group Limited
Thu 08 Jan
PROPOSED SIGNIFICANT MAJOR PROJECT & ASSOCIATED PROJECTS - MARY VALLEY REGION Local Opportunities Completion - proposed 201
Administration > Administration
QLD - Other |
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EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST - CIVIL & STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS EVP Recruitment Group Limited
Thu 08 Jan
QLD - Other
Local Opportunities Proposed Major Infrastructure Completion - proposed 2011
Engineering > Other
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EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST - CONSTRUCTION WORKERS EVP Recruitment Group Limited
Thu 08 Jan
QLD - Other
Local Opportunities Proposed Major Infrastructure Completion - proposed 2011
Construction > Other |
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Drivers/ Plant Operators EVP Recruitment Group Limited
Thu 08 Jan
Sunshine Coast - Other
Local Opportunities Proposed Major Infrastructure Completion - proposed 2011
Manufacturing/Operations > Machine Operators |
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EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST - TRADES & SERVICES EVP Recruitment Group Limited
Thu 08 Jan
QLD - Other
Local Opportunities Proposed Major Infrastructure Completion - proposed 2011
Trades & Services > Other |
P.S That link in the Senator MacDonald media release won't work for me..(enabling cookie's thing)..but the first link on this thread works no prob's for me.
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Oh, and in case some forum readers haven't heard about the job losses in the resource sector, here's only a snippet. If you google mining job losses you'll get bombarded with results. It's pretty serious. The QLD Government should be downright ashamed of themselves for offering QLD & Australian jobs to offshore jobseekers!!!!!!
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ABC Online
Govt unprepared for Qld mine job losses: Oppn
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/14/2466206.htm?section=business
Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:37pm AEDT
The total number of mine redundancies in Queensland since October is now more than 1,000. (AAP: Dave Hunt, file photo)
The Queensland Opposition says the Government was poorly prepared for job losses in the mining industry.
More than 300 jobs have been cut at mines in north-west and central Queensland, as companies try to cope with the global economic crisis.
The total number of mine redundancies in Queensland since October is now more than 1,000.
Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg says the State Government did not plan for the end of the mining boom.
"If this Government had listened to the LNP it would have invested some of the billions of dollars of royalties it actually got in making sure that we had more secure employment options for those people in those communities once there was a downturn," he said.
The Government says it is offering help to retrenched mine workers, but most are finding other jobs.
Acting Premier Paul Lucas says the State Government is spending big money to create jobs.
He says the Government is not afraid to borrow and go into deficit if it means creating jobs and building infrastructure when economic times are tough.
Mount Isa Mayor John Molony says he hopes 150 workers affected by a restructuring of Xstrata Zinc's operations can be offered alternative employment.
Xstrata Zinc will stop zinc-lead operations at its Handlebar Hill operation next month until market conditions improve.
Mr Molony says he understands the move was needed to strengthen the company during the economic crisis.
"We've got to remember that this is the first realised impact that we're feeling from our biggest employer in the city," he said.
"That becomes a slight threat to our economy. We have a strong economy, we have a vibrant economy. But this is the biggest employer in town letting us know that they're hurting."
Xstrata has also served about 30 redundancy notices to workers at the Oaky Creek Number One mine in central Queensland's Tieri.
A spokesman from the mining union, Stuart Vaccaneo, says negotiations failed after the Industrial Commission gave workers one week's reprieve.
"We couldn't make any further progress. They weren't going to change their minds about voluntaries instead of forced and it was really pointless continuing the discussions," he said.
Mining company BMA says the latest round of job cuts in the Bowen Basin are not directly related to the downturn in the industry.
Twenty-five contractors at the Saraji mine near Dysart were yesterday given two weeks' notice.
A spokeswoman from BMA says the workers were employed for three months to meet additional haulage requirements and their contracts were almost complete.
Meanwhile, a Sydney mining analyst believes there are more job losses to come, as the mining industry responds to falling prices.
Gavin Wendt says it is likely to be 18 months before commodity prices begin to recover and the industry moves into another growth cycle.
"Resource companies aren't going to produce commodities at a loss and they're going to leave the stuff in the ground if need be in order to generate a turnaround in prices," he said. |
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BRISBANE TIMES
Speed of downturn shocks industry
Shannon Molloy | January 20, 2009 - 4:09AM
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/speed-of-downturn-shocks-industry/2009/01/19/1232213540606.html
Queensland's tourism operators, retailers and mining businesses are most exposed to the worsening national economy and could be forced to consider job cuts, the state's peak commerce group has warned.
According to a report by Access Economics released yesterday, Australia will fall into a deep recession this year and the Sunshine State will be worst hit by an economic downturn.
Falling commodity prices and dwindling demand from export markets meant Queensland's mining boom was quickly coming to an end, the report said.
Unemployment in the resources, engineering and commercial construction industries was also likely to rise in the year ahead, Access said.
Chamber of Commerce and Industry Queensland senior policy adviser Sarah Kearney said the speed of the resource sector's downturn would come as a shock to many.
"I think everyone at some point accepted the resources boom would slow down, but the sharpness in commodity price reductions has probably come as a surprise to a lot of people," Ms Kearney said.
Other businesses that rely on consumer discretionary spending, including tourism operators and retailers, will also be hardest hit by the economic downturn, she said.
However it is impossible to predict just how severe the ripple effects would be and it remains to be seen how high unemployment could rise.
Many businesses are feeling "nervous and uncertain" about the future, delaying investment, expansion and hiring new staff, she said.
And those already under pressure are most likely to lay off staff and could go out of business this year, she said.
"I wouldn't be surprised if we are in a similarly volatile situation in 12 months time, with the ups and downs of the current marker continuing.
"We're certainly going to experience a slowdown, but whether we end up in recession depends on how things turn out in coming months."
Retailers Association executive director Scott Driscoll is more upbeat about the future and does not believe a recession is on the cards.
Recent gains to consumer confidence levels, following a bumper Christmas trading season, could be eroded by negative sentiment and scaremongering, Mr Driscoll said.
"If people examine their household budgets and personal situations, I think most would find they are in a very strong position," he said.
"We're looking at a pretty positive year and the first quarter alone is looking quite strong, but this stability is under threat by doomsday predictions and blanket statements about the economy."
The retail sector, one of the biggest employers in the country, is unlikely to shed a significant number of jobs as a result of the economy, he said.
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bensoncooroy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:01 am Post subject: Mary Valley jobs |
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They have gone off the website already, VERY INTERESTING
I read them all this morning, can't trust this Government or QWIPL |
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Darren E
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Apparently this story is already running on local radio news (Zinc FM).
What a political blunder. No wonder the ads disappeared quickly from the website. I wonder if Graeme had Anna's permission to recruit overseas.
Shame on QWIPL. My first thought after seeing the ads this morning was "how can they be recruiting for an unapproved project that is supposedly on hold for several years?"
But Senator MacDonald is right. How dare they go recruiting overseas - for any job on any project - while suitably qualified Queenslanders are losing their jobs.
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Here's a couple of media responses to this issue - one directly in denial, and the other a diversionary tactic.
From Sunshine Coast Daily Wed 21st Jan 2009:
| Quote: | Job ads deepen dam fears
12:00a.m. 21st January 2009
By Bill Hoffman
The state opposition thought it had evidence of state government under-handedness over the Traveston Crossing Dam and accused premier Anna Bligh of being incapable of lying straight in bed.
The simple fact though, according to recruitment agency EVP, was that a lot of people had leapt to a conclusion without checking the facts.
At the centre of the consternation was a series of advertisements on www.seek.com.au looking for expressions of interest in a range of jobs around major infrastructure projects in the Mary Valley. Key in LNP member for Noosa Glen Elmes, the sniff of an early election and the hint of another Traveston Dam controversy, and suddenly Ms Bligh’s nocturnal habits were in the spotlight.
Mr Elmes sent off a “Bligh couldn’t lie straight in bed” media release and went on air to speculate about the reason for the ads.
The real story, though, according to Derek Dodunski from EVP’s Queensland and NT regional office, was that the international recruitment franchise was aware of Queensland Water Infrastructure’s commitment to source 40% of its workforce locally if and when the dam is approved, and was seeking to build a data base to satisfy that quota.
Mr Dodunski loves the dam project and thinks that the dam project will generate a lot of jobs before, during and after construction.
EVP is a member of AIM, a group of businesses and manufacturers between the northern Sunshine Coast and Bundaberg, which would be vying for contracts if the controversial dam ever gets the go-ahead.
Queensland Water Infrastructure sends representatives to its meetings.
Mr Dodunski said the advertisement was not targeting Kiwi workers as the LNP claimed. He said www.seek.com.au was an international company and if you asked the right questions it would pop up on search engines the world over. He said the advertisements clearly required applicants eligible to work in Australia.
A spokesman for infrastructure minister Paul Lucas was adamant that the ads had not been placed or paid for by either the government or QWI.
But nobody, including Mr Dodunski, could explain why the advertisements disappeared from the search engine within two hours of questions about it being asked. |
And From ABC Online, Tues 20th Jan 2009:
| Quote: | Beaudesert dam to provide 300 jobs
Posted Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:21pm AEDT
Queensland's Acting Premier says more than 300 jobs will come from the construction of a new dam near Beaudesert in the state's south-east.
Paul Lucas says 55 workers have started building an access road to the site of the $333 million Wyaralong Dam.
He says another 250 will be employed on the project before the dam is completed in 2011.
"We're looking for machinery operators, fencers, labourers, administrators and cleaners," he said.
"We are committed to using locals as much as possible and we are also creating opportunities for about 400 businesses, boosting the Brisbane, Beaudesert and Boonah and south-east Queensland economies." |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: |
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That is clearly a snow job. EVP taking the flack so that nothing sticks to the QLD State Government. What good little pawns. Doing what they can to lie their way out of it for Captain Bligh and her scurvy QWI crew. Only problem for EVP however, is that their dodgy response to this only works to bring their credibility as professionals into question.
From the above SCD article;
| Quote: | | Mr Dodunski said the advertisement was not targeting Kiwi workers as the LNP claimed. He said www.seek.com.au was an international company and if you asked the right questions it would pop up on search engines the world over. He said the advertisements clearly required applicants eligible to work in Australia |
Thing is, it wasn't on www.seek.com.au it was on www.seek.co.nz. That means it is targeting kiwi workers. (I'm sure it was on .com.au as well, I understand that).
And the ads required the applicants eligible to work in Australia. Well naturally that means precisely what anti-dammers are saying. The ads are targeted at overseas jobseekers who are willing to work in Australia. Not too hard for a kiwi to get a work visa in Australia. Isn't he just reiterating what is being said? That they are offering jobs on the dam to overseas jobseekers?
I don't know how anyone can believe a word this Mr Dodunski is saying. He seems to be flailing about and not really putting too much together that could be classed as legitimate. I don't think the LNP jumped to conclusions at all. It is what it is and I think we all know it.
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Darren E
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Right on, westholme.
And yesterday morning, after checking out the jobs on seek.co.nz, I went to seek.com.au to see if they were advertised here too. I could not find them, other than by using google which took me straight back to the NZ site.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Sunshine Coast Daily
Political heat cools enthusiasm for ads (not online)
Bill Hoffman
22 JAN 2009
| Quote: | THE company that placed advertisements looking to attract workers for major infrastructure projects in the Mary Valley has pulled them because of the political controversy that erupted on Tuesday.
EVP-Recruitment had placed the advertisements on seek.com au to build a data base of potential workers to fill Queensland Water and Infrastructure’s quota of a 40% local workforce if the controversial Traveston Crossing Dam should win approval.
Company spokesman Derek Dodunski said yesterday that senior management had pulled the ads after they became the subject of a political attack by the LNP, which had interpreted them as a backdoor Queensland government push to proceed wilh the project.
Mr Dodunski said EVP was an apolitical organisation and had become concerned about the political heat around the advertising
It had withdrawn the ads, which had been booked to run for 30 days, until it could speak to all relevant stakeholders.
The Queensland government said on Tuesday that neither it nor QWI had booked or paid for the advertising, which sought expressions of interest from workers with a range of skills for infrastructure projects in the Mary Valley.
An article in yesterday’s Sunshine Coast Daily said EVP was a member of AIM, an organisation of businesses and manufacturers interested in securing contracts if the dam goes ahead.
The organisation is in fact the Association of Industry, Engineering and Manufacturers.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:51 am Post subject: GT 22-1-09 Dam jobs gone |
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The Gympie Times
Thursday 22nd January 2009
| Quote: | Dam jobs gone
“SORRY - this job no longer advertised.”
That was the bad news yesterday for would-be Traveston Crossing dam builders, especially any from New Zealand, responding to what had suddenly become a highly controversial internet job advertisement.
The ad suddenly disappeared from the net after a passionate attack on State Government integrity from Liberal Senator Ian Macdonald, along with Gympie and Noosa MPs David Gibson and Glen Elmes.
However, both the government and its dam construction company, Queensland Water Infrastructure Pty Ltd denied the advertisements were anything to do with them, particularly the version which appeared on the net in New Zealand.
Sen Macdonald blasted the government over “recruiting overseas” at a time of rising unemployment in Queensland and for recruiting at all for a deferred project which many believe will never proceed.
Mr Gibson said the government had “lied about so many aspects of the proposed dam and they are continuing to do so,” while Mr Elmes said Premier Anna Bligh “couldn’t lie straight in bed.”
Yesterday it emerged that a little too much of the government’s pro-dam “full steam ahead” rhetoric had rubbed off on the net advertiser, a local employment agency whose staff had attended one of QWI’s pro-dam pep talks, at which the project has been consistently promoted as all but inevitable.
QWI boss Graeme Newton said the company “is not recruiting for any employees for the Traveston Crossing Dam project and is not a client of recruitment firm EVP.
“Following review of the advertisement, QWI suggested to EVP that they may wish to remove it from Seek,” he said. |
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Something here still stinks.
EVP, QWIPL and the state government all maintain that QWIPL is not recruiting, is not a client of EVP, and that EVP was acting independently.
They tell us that we "leapt to a conclusion without checking the facts", and that EVP only "placed the advertisements on seek.com au to build a data base of potential workers to fill Queensland Water and Infrastructure’s quota of a 40% local workforce if the controversial Traveston Crossing Dam should win approval".
These explanations are not very convincing, given that the ads were posted in NZ, targeting non-local applicants.
And did EVP pull the ads within hours of SteveB posting them on this forum because it had "become concerned about the political heat around the advertising", or "until it could speak to all relevant stakeholders", or because QWIPL told them to? ("Following review of the advertisement, QWI suggested to EVP that they may wish to remove it").
It does not make sense to me that a recruiting company like EVP would waste their own time and money advertising jobs which do not exist. I know that they like to maintain a database of potential employees - usually by keeping the details of people who have unsuccessfully applied for other jobs.
But with the TCD project supposedly on hold for a minimum of two years, there would be little point building up a database now. Most of the applicants now would likely have found other employment by then. EVP would have to go through the entire advertising / recruitment exercise again in two years, rendering the current exercise a complete waste of time and money.
And can you imagine the bad reputation they'd get with potential employees?
[caller] "Hi, I'm calling about the choice job you advertised, bro".
[EVP] "Oh, I'm sorry. There is no job. We just want to build up a database. Maybe you can have a job in two years".
[caller] "Well, funnily enough, I was looking for work NOW. Thanks for wasting my time. Shove that up your [expletive] database!!"
I simply cannot believe that QWIPL had nothing to do with these ads. I think we have witnessed another "Langmont Advantage debacle" cover-up.
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And lest we forget....what about the part of the ads that stated; completion date 2011? The 'alleged' pre-pre-pre-mitigation strategies aren't even supposed to be done by then.
EVP doesn't make this stuff up, that is QWI's timeline.
QWI got stuck with their hand in the cookie jar, and then EVP had to take it right up the proverbial.
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