First Beattie, Now Bligh

[westholme]

So I guess everyone knows now that BLIGH will blow into town this Friday 3/11 to drop her, "but it's good news! Don't you want to hear the good news? We've made it smaller" ala Beattie's visit where he said a similiar thing.

Smaller, in my world, is not good news. Smaller is not NO DAM! So what are we going to do to let Bligh and her dark army know that we don't want their stupid dam, that we aren't going to stand by and cheer while hundreds are still going to lose their homes and farms, and while precious ecosystem and river environs are wiped out.
Block the road perhaps? Tell her to piss off back to where she came from until she's ready to announce NO dam, no loss of the Mary River, no loss of valued flora and fauna, and no-one forced off their land and out of their homes.

Any ideas forumites? The forum was where the plan was engineered to turn our backs on Beattie. Who's got another idea?
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[westholme]

On second thoughts...if you have an idea, pm (private message) it to a Forum Moderator.

Me (Westholme)
Darren E
Elaine
Rev Watt
SteveB
Doug Haigh and Jen Mercer
Car2522
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[rogerwbbcc]

any scuttlebutt maties, on what be the wharf she plans to heave to? me thinks she may have a sqaudroon of armed marines a foot? capn bligh might need a broadside across her bows ifn she plans ta sail up the bonnie mary and declare war on the natives , what say ye maties, it be mutiny whats needed? ifn she plans to heave to in the showgrounds , she be needing a big no dam sticker for a helipad?

[westholme]

Mutiny, to be sure me hearty Roger Pencil Sword. Captn Bligh needs some friggin' in the riggin'. Do yer reckon that'd be good news fer her laddie?



A massive no dammer on the helli pad would be a classic. Maybe the same sneaky devil that stuck the no dam sticker on the Lungfish tank at the Brisvegas DPI office, could do some midnight spray painting.

All you anarchists out there. Keep in mind that a big burly security guard may slip you a nipple cripple and toss you in a paddy wagon if you do anything stupid. If they wanted to be p%^ks they could call you a terrorist and keep you in for twenty days (or whatever it is) where they may proceed to strip you naked and lay you in a pile on the floor for happy snaps.

(But then I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time for those who drank in their younger years that they may find themselves waking up in a pile of naked body's with a German Shepherd sniffing your groin).
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[markgrogan]

[stormy]

hehe PMSL, I think 'mutiny' is something that is needed here, its a good theme. But since when is something that just went up to below 10,000 hectares smaller?
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Peter beattie (big hat no cattle) A Bligh (big ar$e no *!*$)

[westholme]

And how longs a piece of string?

It's one of those mysteries of life stormy. Looking at the map right now, I see it as virtually the same dam as before, except that where we live, up a valley inline with the original dam wall location, has been spared by them moving the wall upstream 600 metres or so.

That original figure of hectares for the dam did not include the country needed for realignment of roads and the heritage railway. It would've been a lot more hectares if they'd included these new road and rail acquisitions.
My head hurts a bit much to get stuck into the map to look for these extra hectares they've come up with, but I knida gave one scenario on that other thread. Clusters of houses on one or two acre blocks saved, a road realignment or railway realignment going through some 300 acre farms requiring they be 'acquired' instead. Less properties required, but the properties are bigger.
That's all I've got for you stormy. Just remember, the original dam proposals didn't include roads and rail land acquisitions and some of those acquisitions are bigger than the country that was in the dam at say, Carters Ridge.
I'm sure someone smarter than me (and more patience to compare maps) will come forward soon and dot the i's and cross the t's on this hectare mystery.
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[stormy]

still cant get onto the bloomin' thing. It worked early this morning but now - pfft it not working.
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Peter beattie (big hat no cattle) A Bligh (big ar$e no *!*$)

[westholme]

Are you dial up or broadband?

Is it just freezing and not loading? I'm broadband and it sits there for a fair while before it loads even on my service. Have you tried going to the QWIPL site and going to it through there? If you're on dial up maybe it's too big, if you're on broadband, then stuffed if I know.
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[stormy]

i've tried the qwipl site as well with no luck, we are on broadband too! dunno, one of lifes little mysteries. It probably hates me hey I have NOT really gone paranoid because of the stress over this dam thing, honest I havent.
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Peter beattie (big hat no cattle) A Bligh (big ar$e no *!*$)

[arawajo]

Stormy I sometimes can't get onto a web page for no obvious reason - so I turn my computer off and then turn it on again. Mostly it then goes to the page OK.
I can't open pdf's though - I have to save them in order to open them. Most of the maps etc are pdfs. I haven't got Windows XP so some things play up.
hope that helps,
arawajo.
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[westholme]

Until a few months ago we still had Windows 98 SE and some pdf's would stall halfway and never load, but mostly they did load. It was the big ones that gave us the trouble. I think the map is over, from memory, 500Kb's, so it's big, not MASSIVE, but not bad for size.

an after thought....
stormy....do you have acrobat reader installed?
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[arawajo]

[quote]"Worker assistance would be provided to anyone who can demonstrate that they have either lost their job or their livelihood as a direct result of the government's decision to site dams on the Mary River at Traveston Crossing and on the Teviot Brook at Wyaralong," adds Bligh.

Bligh says eligible persons include any affected permanent staff and casual employees of long duration.

In relation to individuals assistance provided includes up to $5,000 assistance to be made up from any combination of the following:

Job Preparation Assistance (up to $1,000)

Training Assistance (up to $3,000)

Employer Wage Subsidy (up to $2,000)

Relocation Assistance (up to $2,000)


Bligh says apart from relocation assistance, which is provided as a reimbursement to workers following the expenditure, the assistance is in the form of services [/quote]

Can you imagine trying to relocate for "up to $2000"? What are they thinking? Just a moving van would cost that much let alone rental bond, new school uniforms for kids, mail redirection etc etc etc.

And Job preparation assistance? What does that mean? How to apply make-up? How to increase your self esteem? Can you imagine the job preparation instructor trying to tell homeless people from the Travesty that they need to have a positive attitude to job hunting?

This whole fiasco needs to be met with passive civil disobedience. Don't roll over for them, don't sell, don't move out, tell them and tell them and tell them again .. this DAM is not going to happen.
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[watty]

Hi All,
Re Bligh's visit on Friday and our response
Information from Brisbane media mob is that they are already questioning what response she can expect from us on Friday......... so they are (of course) hoping for a show..... for the cameras.... of a mob of yobos
Instead we need Bligh to be seen on TV sweating it out in Gympie under pressure and I have it from a very good authority in State Paliament that she cannot handle detailed questioning....... lets give her some curley ones to squirm about... .the material for that won't be hard to figure out.
Also quiet indignation with backs turned would be great.....
lets keep the foul mouthed quiet - it does not do anything for our plight.
lets be angry but civilized.
spread the word - this protest needs to be even bigger than Beatties visit.
no need to remind anyone to be angry...
regards and see you there
Jan

[Darren E]

Hi watty,
your comments are well noted. All protests to date have been peaceful and law-abiding (to everybody's credit) and that standard must be maintained.

The "quiet indignation with backs turned" was a fantastic statement when the Premier came to town a few months back, although the same trick probably won't work twice, either for the media or for AB who will be prepped to be expecting it. It was a bit disappointing, though, when the camera angles employed by most of the Brisbane TV news cameras showed 2,000 backs turned (out of focus in the background) with just a few people sharply in focus in the foreground facing front...

I have great faith in the people of the Mary Valley, who presented PB with "the toughest thing I've ever had to do", to shiver a few of Captain Bligh's timbers too.